[Cainracing]

I could live with a metal body rule

[JRC ENT LLC]

Aaron,
This is good discussion and hope this thread stays this way because this is what Steve E. and the rest of the ASA officials need to see, not that it will change things.
You stated

Originally Posted by Cainracing

I could live with a metal body rule

Now back to what some of the other guys have posted about late model looking cars, are you ok with a 2000 steel bodied Monte Carlo? or do you say no front wheel drive cars which would also hurt lumina's, newer regals and GP, etc type cars? Would a nose height rule fix this?

Personally I think Bobby's Dodge is cool and same with that Caddy, Variety! Keep it looking like it drove in off the street?

No fiberglass, except for the hood. Which should probably be manditory(?) for safety? especially on bigger tracks?

Just ideas.

[Cainracing]

hahaha
I am waffling here

[45wagner]

All steel body rule will glass hood would work perfect! 2000 monte factory steel body would workout nice on a full size 112. But the body parts are very pricey! Rich Wagner

[racin72]

Originally Posted by SCSMARK

So in favor of not letting bobby's dodge run that car has a newer body on it and there are a few more people building some newer cars as far as mustangs and camaros. So you need to be careful what kind of bodies you allow because bobby's car is one of the coolest cars i have seen in a long time. Besides the EL CAMINO
mark deporter

Actually, all that is newer is the nose and tail. the roof is 70-74. says so in the newest circle track mag. I don't have a problem with the current model year nose and tail on an older body. Ive seen a challenger with a Montie SS nose. It was well done, but still messed up the identity of the car.

I prefer NOT to have fwd bodies, for the reason i stated before. a steel roof montie carlo, lumina , grand prix ect will not look much different from the made for racing body, It will probably have the same fenders and doors. Im not sure on how i feel about the caddy as i haven't seen it. it would be tough to put into a rule book, but if it looks like a street stock or sportsman It's cool to me. if it looks like a Late model its time to think over what class you really want to race. That's all my opinion guys, But its based on my feelings when im on the other side of the fence (in the stands). I visited a track this year that had mid ams , Lates and super lates. I (a racer) had a tough time telling the difference and it got boring watching 3 classes that look like all the same thing. I don't like watching 4 bangers but was happy to see them come on the track cause they were different.

[CousinRich]

I also like the idea of the steel body rule. I understand not wanting them all to look like late models but I would also hate 95% of them to look like a 88 monte. I am not saying they would, I just think a steel body rule would be a little better the first year to maybe encourage more people to run a full season and see if its even a problem. Just my thoughts, but it shall be neat to see.
Rich Hinerichsen

[Victory Race Cars 1]

Originally Posted by racin72

Actually, all that is newer is the nose and tail. the roof is 70-74. says so in the newest circle track mag. I don't have a problem with the current model year nose and tail on an older body. Ive seen a challenger with a Montie SS nose. It was well done, but still messed up the identity of the car.

I prefer NOT to have fwd bodies, for the reason i stated before. a steel roof montie carlo, lumina , grand prix ect will not look much different from the made for racing body, It will probably have the same fenders and doors. Im not sure on how i feel about the caddy as i haven't seen it. it would be tough to put into a rule book, but if it looks like a street stock or sportsman It's cool to me. if it looks like a Late model its time to think over what class you really want to race. That's all my opinion guys, But its based on my feelings when im on the other side of the fence (in the stands). I visited a track this year that had mid ams , Lates and super lates. I (a racer) had a tough time telling the difference and it got boring watching 3 classes that look like all the same thing. I don't like watching 4 bangers but was happy to see them come on the track cause they were different.

This is the caddy

[dhracing1]

Originally Posted by 45wagner

All steel body rule will glass hood would work perfect! 2000 monte factory steel body would workout nice on a full size 112. But the body parts are very pricey! Rich Wagner

direct interest and all questions about the steel bodies for the Asa Midwest sportsmans contact rules director don heelein 920-222-9524 email don@asamidwesttour.com

[dhracing1]

Originally Posted by dhracing1

direct interest and all questions about the steel bodies for the Asa Midwest sportsmans contact rules director don heelein 920-222-9524 email don@asamidwesttour.com

direct all questions about the 602 crate motor for the asa midwest tour series 2010 rules director don heelein 920-222-9524 email don@asamidwesttour.com

[kraig58]

i think they should let the newer steel bodys go for the first year.then i will have to go dig up my flower pot in the front yard and race it in this series.former 141 speedway driver!!!!!!!!!

[Tom_Slick_27]

When do you think we can see a schedule?

[52quick4u]

I would think they would allow that caddy compete. If it isn't something giving an advantage or something totally against the concept of the class I think the promoters are goign to use judgement and allow variations.

I dont know about fiberglass hoods..... I dont think that really jive's with the concept the ASA Sportsman class is leaning towards.

[45wagner]

Originally Posted by 52quick4u

I would think they would allow that caddy compete. If it isn't something giving an advantage or something totally against the concept of the class I think the promoters are goign to use judgement and allow variations.

I dont know about fiberglass hoods..... I dont think that really jive's with the concept the ASA Sportsman class is leaning towards.

Fiberglass hoods do jive! Fiberglass hood rule is in the 2010 ASA Sportsman class rule book. And has been in the Jefferson, Columbus, Madison rule book`s for years. Rich

[racin72]

a fiberglass hood is much more safe than a steel one. they don't fly as well, and come down a bit lighter if they do come off (lets hope that doesn't happen) they also flex in a crash vs shear off and come through the windshield at the driver. The teck guys at Jefferson said my car was the first they had seen in a few years without a fiberglass hood. the only glass hoods ive found for my car are the thick street reinforced hoods. I really don't want to loose the body lines in it, but that may happen in the future.

[showtime71]

Originally Posted by Victory Race Cars 1

This is the caddy

Very cool man. I see nothing wrong with it and it sure doesn't look like a late model which i still think is a funny problem to be worried about. I built a 90 t'bird with an all steel factory ford body and had a five star 97 nose and tail. It didn't look anything like a late model and if the pics were smaller I'd post them. If You want cars the bodies shouldn't matter as long as the guy is using factory steel roof,qaurters,fenders and in some cases the doors and theres a rubber nose and tail being made for that make and model let him run it. Take a monte off the street and park it next to a llm and you'll notice the huge difference in apperence. Thats unless you want everyone to run shoe box montes, The full siz dont look any different once the nose is added from the metrics. If you don't want newer bodies but want a few different looking cars what are they going to run?